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Garden
== General Data ==
*Last Frost Date: May 13
*First Frost Date: Sept. 30
*Zone: 6
*[[Garden Calendar]]


Last Frost Date: May 13
== Resources ==
First Frost Date: Sept. 30
* http://www.therustedgarden.blogspot.com/
Zone: 6
* http://www.familyhandyman.com/DIY-Projects/Outdoor-Projects/Yard/Planters---Containers/build-your-own-self-watering-planter/View-All


For 2011:
=== Logs ===
Roma Tomatoes, Onions, Garlic, soybeans, rutabaga, leaf lettuce, onion sets.
*[[2020 Garden Log]]
Order seeds first week of March. Planting runs end of March through early June. Set up 5-gal buckets for tomatoes. Get every thing else in the square-foot garden. Start saving milk containers.
*[[2019 Garden Log]]
*[[2018 Garden Log]]
*[[2016 Garden Log]]
*[[2015 Garden Log]]
*[[2014 Garden Log]]
*[[2013 Garden Log]]
*[[2012 Garden Log]]
*[[2011 Garden Log]]
*[[2010 Garden Log]]


Feb 15: Order Seeds, cold-frame plastic and hose-timer
== Plants ==
http://www.burpee.com/vegetables/tomatoes/paste/tomato-roma-vf-prod001008.html
* 5/5 [[Roma Tomatoes]]: The classic garden plant for a reason. Canned tomatoes have bpa, fresh tomatoes are expensive. Growing is easy.
http://www.burpee.com/vegetables/beans/soybean/bean-soy-green-pearls-prod000601.html
* 2/5 [[Onions]]: I haven't had good luck, but if I could grow them I might bump this up to a 3 or 4. Problem is they are cheap to buy and they keep well.
http://www.burpee.com/vegetables/onions/onion-collection-sets-prod000770.html
* 4/5 [[Soybeans]]: These are cheap to buy dried. But when I grow them, they are delicious as edamame and they're pretty easy to grow.
http://www.burpee.com/vegetables/garlic/softneck/garlic-extra-select-prod000716.html
* 2/5 [[Garlic]]: almost the same as onion
http://www.burpee.com/vegetables/rutabaga/rutabaga-burpee-s-purple-top-prod000885.html
* 2/5 [[Rutabaga]]: same as onion, though I would like to figure out how to make saurkraut from the leaves
http://www.burpee.com/vegetables/lettuce/lettuce-looseleaf-blend-prod000750.html
* 4/5 [[Carrots]]: Once they're established, they grow easily if they don't have worms. And they're delicious.
http://www.burpee.com/vegetables/onions/onion-sweet-early-hybrid-prod001141.html
* ??? [[Raspberries]]
* ??? [[Apples]]


Roma Tomatoes 3.25
== Goals ==
Onion sets 12.95
Garlic 8.95
soybeans 4.95
rutabaga 3.95
leaf lettuce 3.25
onion seeds 2.95
Total: 40.25


March 25: Sprout Tomatoes indoors in a plastic bag (like 1st grade), setup cold frame.
The long term objective is to grow a significant portion of our food. But that will not be feasible for a while. Eventually I will buy land for Coltend and one of the the first things I will do is start gardening.
April 8: Plant Onion sets
April 23: Move tomatoes out to cold frame
April 30: Start Spinach indoors
May 7: Start Pumpkins
May 13: Move Spinach outdoors, move Tomatoes outdoors (or wait a week if it's still cold) [or take down cold frame if that's how I'm doing it]
May 28: Start Soybeans, Move pumpkins outside.
June 4: Start rutabaga. Start onion seeds
September 24(ish): Harvest Pumpkins


http://www.burpee.com/gygg/growingCalendarNoZipCode.jsp
For now, the goal is to grow some useful foods and learn from the experience.


Try leaving a few onions in the ground at the end of the season, supposedly they multiply like garlic and the bulbs can be separated and planted the next spring.
I believe we will stay in our current home for at least another 10 years, maybe more. Eventually, I'd like to convert more of the land to production. I'm not sure how much I can really do, but I should be able to at least triple what I have.


Design for fall 2011:
I should also be able to go back to doing pots on the roof at some point. Though I don't want to deal with the drip irrigation. I could also build a roof over the porch area and put more plants up there.
Immediately after the growing season in 2011 (First week of October) I want to tear out the existing garden and put in a new one with more growing space. The new garden will have two rows, a back row that is two feet wide and front row that is four feet wide. Both will be eight feet long. There will be a three foot walkway in front of each. A small rabbit fence made of chicken wire will go around the whole thing. The purpose of the two foot wide row is to grow tall plants in the back, because tall plants will limit my access, I cannot reach the center of a 4 foot trench, hence it is 2. Because this was a short coming of my current construction, make sure to dig out and level the ground first. Once the plot is constructed, a single, regular garden sprinkler should be able to water the whole thing.


I may move from true square foot gardening to 5-gallon bucket gardening. I think it will be cheaper and more modular. I plan on putting the buckets on the porch roof.
From a cost standpoint, anything that returns 1/20th of it's value is a win. But since gardens are unreliable, I want to shoot for something more like 1/10th. One wall 4' garden bed wall costs about $8, add the cost of the underlay for wicking and some chicken wire fence and call it $10. Running long rows, say 16ft means 10 sections per bed, or about $100 to build a bed. So it would need to produce $10 in vegetables to be "productive". I should also take the cost of the land into account, but the areas I'm looking at the cost is pennies per sq ft.


Notes from 2011:
== Sim ==
I never ended up planting rutabaga, which is sad. Everything else at this point (mid-July) seems to be doing OK. I did get a late start on the tomatoes. I think I’m still going to get some, but next year I really need to get them planted earlier. I think they will do just fine in my office even though they won’t get a lot of sunlight. The buckets on the roof and the drip irrigation system are both working wonderfully.
I wrote a simulator a while ago that evolved a garden layout from random mutations. I should take another crack at that. Update so that it values less wall area.


I got a good yeild from the soybeans, both on the roof and the ground. I will plant exclusively soybeans on the ground next year. The garlic did ok, but did not get as big as I would have liked. I am going to try sowing garlic this fall to see if it does better next year. Tomatoes are just starting to get ripe.
== Unresearched ==
*wheat
*oats
*rice
*corn
*tea
*nuts(?)
*blueberries
*raspberries
*apples
*lettuces
*legumes
**garbanzo
**kidney
**pinto
**peas
**red lentils
*herbs
**basil
**dill
*peppers
**cayenne
**chili
**bell


Notes from 2010:
== Related ==
Started late which was really a problem because it was so hot that many plants died from the heat. I tried to grow cucumber, zucchini, romain, basil and spinach. The Cucumber did excellent, the zucchini did ok, zucchini did pretty good, the cucumber did not do as well but I lost one whole cell to the heat. The romain and spinach completely died because I transplanted too soon and the heat. Some goes for the basil except that one of the four squares did survive. The cucumber and zucchini had such strong roots at the time of transplant that the dirt all came out with the seedling. The ones that died had very little root structure.
*[[Garden Automation]]
Pumpkins: Start indoors two weeks before planting (early May) - soak 2 hours before starting the seed and plant point down. They need to be planted outside by the end of May(140 days to harvest)
    Start: First week of May
    Transfer: Late May
    Harvest: Second week of September


Roma Tomatoes: Start seeds indoors 7 weeks before last frost (March 25). Try starting them in a plastic bag with moist paper towel. Transfer outside after the threat of frost is past. 2 squares, 1 plant per square - try growing in a 5 gal bucket. Once the plant is 3" tall, remove leaves from the bottom 1". Experiment with removing the suckers, they will develop into their own branches. The theory is if you leave all of them, the plant will produce more fruit than it can bear, if you trim all of them you will have a very small harvest. Try to find a happy medium.
[[Category:Garden]]
    Start: March 25
    Transfer: April 23 with cold frame, May 20 without.
    Harvest: ?
 
Onions:
    Ok, do this from sets! Plant sets 5 weeks before last frost date (April 8). Harvest onions when the tops have fallen over and dried. 4 squares, 4 in some squares, 9 in others, store cold and dry after harvest.
    Tops may fall over as soon as the end of July, have a plan for what to plant (broccoli or cauliflower may be good options)
    Sets: In order to truly grow my own onions, plant a bunch of onion seeds in the beginning of July in a container and harvest as sets right after the first frost.
 
soybeans: Pole beans, need something to grow on - plant in back row. (Start last week of May) Do 2 squares, 9 in one square, 4 in the other. Needs to be 60-70F consistently for a week. Keep picking the beans off. Yields in 65-100 days.
 
Garlic: Plant 2-3 inches deep. Plant in fall (September).
 
Rutabaga: Start in early June, harvest right around the first frost. The leaves are also edible.
 
leaf lettuce
 
Carrots: Greens are edible (but bitter) and can be used for tea.
 
Potatoes: Grow in a garbage can
 
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Long term
 
The objective long term is to be growing a great deal of our own food, >50%. The real trick here is going to be figuring out some of the more complex staples like flour, cornmeal, rice, vegetable oil and tofu.
 
Onions
Carrots
wheat
oats
rice
corn
tea
nuts(?)
blueberries
raspberries
apples
rutabaga
lettuces
legumes:
- garbanzo
- kidney
- pinto
- soy
- peas
- red lentils
herbs:
- basil
- dill
peppers:
- cayenne
- chili
- bell
Zucchini: In 2010, I planted the seeds around July 7 and transferred them out to the garden on July 21. I was able to harvest zucchini around October 7. I didn't water the enough the last month, so I think they would have been bigger if I hadn't given up so soon. The plants are big, almost 9 squares, but I could probably trim them and keep them inside of 4 without any harm to the plant. I did get some cucumber beetles, but they can be countered with spiders.
 
Cucumber: 2010, same schedule as the zucchini, but these did even worse. They were particularly effected by the water and I only got one malformed cucumber. Next time, look up directions, there is a way to prune certain parts in order to have it direct more energy to growing cucumbers.
Green House
 
I am going to build a green house on the roof using simple clear plastic (except on the one back wall, that will be black plastic). The design will be the standard rectangle with a triangle on top. It will hold two rows of buckets on each side, a total of about 32 buckets.
 
Weight analysis: I weight 200lbs and I can safely walk around on the roof. If I presume that my weight is distributed to the surrounding 9sqft, then the roof can hold at least 22lbs/sqft. The green house footprint will be 8ftx8ft for 64sqft. Assuming the structure weighs 300lbs, that leaves about 28lbs per bucket to stay below my known threshold.
 
Design: The structure will be 8x8 (2x4s) The front and back sides will be 4x8 rectangles The roof (front & back) will be 8x5.66, with two support beams. The sides will be laid out the same, but one will have an entrance; the layout will be a pentagon with 2 parallel sides (front & back) and 2 sides meeting at 90deg (roof). There will be support beams 1.5 and 2.75 from the center (on both sides), these will line up the support beams in the roof. Each piece should be build separately so that at the end of the season, it can be dismantled. The whole thing can be held together with brackets, bolts and wingnuts. A total of 36 2x4's will be needed. The sides will be build in such a manor that the one crossbar can be removed and the whole thing can be folded in half for storage.
 
Total surface area is 250 sqft (get more to be safe).
http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/2597/plastic-greenhouse-film
 
UPDATE: After a few days of rational thinking, I nixed this idea and went back to the original idea of putting a small cold-frame on the roof. I only need it for a few weeks in the spring and it only has to be big enough to accommodate seedlings. It doesn't have to be a massive structure.
 
Need to Buy 2011:
Hose splitter - http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-13-Brass-2-Way-Connector/dp/B000FJYSHW/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I12R18N0WE2GSO&colid=3AK6W4BJFQG2M
Hose Timer - http://www.amazon.com/Orbit-91213-One-Dial-Garden-Digital/dp/B001RCTWZE/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=IMAIJ7OCPN9B3&colid=3AK6W4BJFQG2M
Miter Saw - http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW715-15-Amp-12-Inch-Compound/dp/B000ASBCK4/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1YDUAI74CMTI2&colid=TC8ZPN17IY5S
Drill press (nice to have) - http://www.amazon.com/DELTA-DP300L-12-Inch-TwinLaser-Crosshair/dp/B000IZC28U/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I298Z1823PRJOG&colid=TC8ZPN17IY5S
Green house film - http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/2597/plastic-greenhouse-film
Buckets - http://www.amazon.com/5-Gallon-Round-Nursery-Pot/dp/B001R1O8LS/ref=sr_1_7?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1298056123&sr=1-7
 
buckets: 187.6
Hose splitter: 6.75
hose timer: 25.24
green house file: 33.5
 
 
Also Need
Peat Moss
2x4s
Bolts & Nuts
Ok - this would be a crazy idea, but just might work. I’m running into a density problem. In order to do SFG I have to be able to access the plants. But leaving walkways severely reduces density (by almost 50%). If I was to do raised beds on a rolling platform, I would not have that problem.
 
The LONG term goal of the project is to grow a significant percentage of our food - 50% is the 10 year (well, 8 now) goal, after that we’ll see. I’m concerned that the ROI after 50% may be minimal because I’m not going to start raising cows or open an olive orchard to get olive oil. A lot of food will simply not be feasible for me to grow.
 
One way of looking at this problem is that one square foot is roughly one meal. For a family of 4 this means 365*3*4*.5 = 2737.5 or rough 3000 sq ft of garden space. This means a garden about 50ft to a side with rolling beds, or 5250 sq ft with walk-ways, about 70 ft per side.
 
Potatoes may also curb this a bit. The trash can method looks like it can produce quite a few potatoes in a very compact space (< 4 sq ft) if I could be growing 50lbs of potatoes in that area, I would be way out ahead in terms of nutrients and calories per sq ft. Also, potatoes can be stored for a long time.

Latest revision as of 19:29, 28 July 2020

General Data

Resources

Logs

Plants

  • 5/5 Roma Tomatoes: The classic garden plant for a reason. Canned tomatoes have bpa, fresh tomatoes are expensive. Growing is easy.
  • 2/5 Onions: I haven't had good luck, but if I could grow them I might bump this up to a 3 or 4. Problem is they are cheap to buy and they keep well.
  • 4/5 Soybeans: These are cheap to buy dried. But when I grow them, they are delicious as edamame and they're pretty easy to grow.
  • 2/5 Garlic: almost the same as onion
  • 2/5 Rutabaga: same as onion, though I would like to figure out how to make saurkraut from the leaves
  • 4/5 Carrots: Once they're established, they grow easily if they don't have worms. And they're delicious.
  • ??? Raspberries
  • ??? Apples

Goals

The long term objective is to grow a significant portion of our food. But that will not be feasible for a while. Eventually I will buy land for Coltend and one of the the first things I will do is start gardening.

For now, the goal is to grow some useful foods and learn from the experience.

I believe we will stay in our current home for at least another 10 years, maybe more. Eventually, I'd like to convert more of the land to production. I'm not sure how much I can really do, but I should be able to at least triple what I have.

I should also be able to go back to doing pots on the roof at some point. Though I don't want to deal with the drip irrigation. I could also build a roof over the porch area and put more plants up there.

From a cost standpoint, anything that returns 1/20th of it's value is a win. But since gardens are unreliable, I want to shoot for something more like 1/10th. One wall 4' garden bed wall costs about $8, add the cost of the underlay for wicking and some chicken wire fence and call it $10. Running long rows, say 16ft means 10 sections per bed, or about $100 to build a bed. So it would need to produce $10 in vegetables to be "productive". I should also take the cost of the land into account, but the areas I'm looking at the cost is pennies per sq ft.

Sim

I wrote a simulator a while ago that evolved a garden layout from random mutations. I should take another crack at that. Update so that it values less wall area.

Unresearched

  • wheat
  • oats
  • rice
  • corn
  • tea
  • nuts(?)
  • blueberries
  • raspberries
  • apples
  • lettuces
  • legumes
    • garbanzo
    • kidney
    • pinto
    • peas
    • red lentils
  • herbs
    • basil
    • dill
  • peppers
    • cayenne
    • chili
    • bell

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